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作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 01:23 AM
标题: [Discussion] manglish is more approachable?
i had discuss this question with my sis and her opinion is yes
1) do u guys think manglish is more approachable compare to proper english??
2) when having daily conversation, will u add some unnecessary words such as "la", "lo","meh", "wor" etc??
3) the way/ways used to improve english conversation??
4) if a foreigner is throwing a question to u, will u dare to answer him/her??

作者: SushiKangKang 时间: 2011-11-3 01:43 AM
1) do u guys think manglish is more approachable compare to proper english??
2) when having daily conversation, will u add some unnecessary words such as "la", "lo","meh", "wor" etc??
3) the way/ways used to improve english conversation??
4) if a foreigner is throwing a question to u, will u dare to answer him/her?

1) In malaysia, manglish is more approachable

2) Yes, i did

3) Dare to speak, read more news paper, watch english movie.
4) Yes, i always do.

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 01:48 AM
回复 2# SushiKangKang

i guess ur movies are those without subtitles right??
and thanks for ur reply

作者: SushiKangKang 时间: 2011-11-3 01:49 AM

回复 SushiKangKang

i guess ur movies are those without subtitles right??
and thanks for ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 01:48 AM

If you not always watch, i suggest with subtitles first.

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 01:54 AM
回复 4# SushiKangKang

but i dont think subtitles going to help bcoz if there is subtitles, u will tend to look at the subtitles and lost focus on wat they talk

作者: SushiKangKang 时间: 2011-11-3 01:58 AM

回复 SushiKangKang

but i dont think subtitles going to help bcoz if there is subtitles, u ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 01:54 AM

Yeah, i forget the points, the way to improve chat conversation. If with subtitles is for not understanding the full sentences meaning.
U can choose to with subtitle or not.

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 02:03 AM
回复 6# SushiKangKang

so u speak english everyday??

作者: SushiKangKang 时间: 2011-11-3 02:10 AM

回复 SushiKangKang

so u speak english everyday??
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 02:03 AM

rarely, i only speak when i go meet some friends

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 02:12 AM
回复 8# SushiKangKang

some frens?? special group?? or u rarely went out??

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 02:32 AM
回复 5# Jayrein

I am the one who watching movie and tend to look at the subtitles so lost focus on what are they talking about...haha...
It is hard to understanding American style of conversation if you are not fluent in english,
it will drive you crazy because of you lost focus of watching the movie too...haha...

作者: 10010 时间: 2011-11-3 02:37 AM
Question:
1) do u guys think manglish is more approachable compare to proper english??
2) when having daily conversation, will u add some unnecessary words such as "la", "lo","meh", "wor" etc??
3) the way/ways used to improve english conversation??
4) if a foreigner is throwing a question to u, will u dare to answer him/her?

Answer:
1)Yes, but only in Malaysia and Singapore.In other countries especially Western countries, if you speak in Manglish, people will never get you and they will think you're weird.
2)Same to Question 1.
3)Speak more.
4)Sure. Why not?

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 02:40 AM
回复 10# danfred

haha~ so u can try to download the movies and watch it again n again until u get the meaning
i dont think american style english is hard to hear nor understand
try to watch UK movies, u will go more crazy

hahahaa

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 02:41 AM
回复 11# 10010

so do u speak a lot??

作者: 10010 时间: 2011-11-3 02:47 AM
回复 13# Jayrein
To a certain extent, yes, I do.

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 02:51 AM

回复 danfred

haha~ so u can try to download the movies and watch it again n again until u ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 02:40 AM

Nonono, I don't want to watch those UK movies...
their proper english make the movies looks weird==!
I prefer american english...hehe...feel relax while watching they talking with each other...
I am the one who saying manglish too..haha..

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 02:53 AM
回复 14# 10010

that sound pretty good

anyway will u have the local accent ??

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 02:57 AM
回复 15# danfred

haha~ i think its the british accent problem
mmm~ coz i notice a lot of ppl talking manglish, so its ok to talk manglish in malaysia i guess~~

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 03:04 AM

回复 danfred

haha~ i think its the british accent problem
mmm~ coz i notice a lot of ppl ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 02:57 AM

definitely, u like to watch UK movies meh? haha...
u see lah, no matter when writing or speaking, I also use manglish...haha

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 03:15 AM
回复 18# danfred

i not sure which movies belong to UK production

but i love to watch movies, almost watched every english movies on screen
haha~ im sure u write it purposely, bcoz its so easy to get rid of manglish

, just dont write all the "la" "lo" "meh"

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 03:22 AM

回复 danfred

i not sure which movies belong to UK production
but i love to watch movi ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 03:15 AM

u should say like this "I think u r written proper english purposely" haha...
I am force myself to write proper english in english corner here,
I am not fluent in english and I don't have a strong foundation,
so u can easily see my grammar not well...

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 03:26 AM
回复 20# danfred

its ok~ it can be improved...
my english [粗俗词语过滤-#0003]s before i enter pre-u too
and just need to practice more then it should be fine
u can try to talk to ur sis or frens in english
and to talk well its doesnt really need good grammar, grammar is for writing

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 03:30 AM

回复 danfred

its ok~ it can be improved...
my english [粗俗词语过滤-#0003]s before i ent ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 03:26 AM

are u trying to say [粗俗词语过滤-#0003]s? haha...
pre-U is form 6?
actually I always speak mandarin..
Only speak english when the time i working at singapore...xD

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 03:32 AM
回复 22# danfred

yeah~ s**ks.. but its been censored
so u should start talking from now on~

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 03:37 AM
回复 23# Jayrein

environment is the major problem...
did u ever speak english at home?

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 03:42 AM
回复 24# danfred

no i dont speak english at home

my house fully mandarin

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 03:45 AM
回复 25# Jayrein

nanana, u see...
hard to speak english lah...haha

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 03:46 AM
回复 26# danfred

talk with ur sis

but i got frens that speak english~

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 03:49 AM
回复 27# Jayrein

it is a good idea

u mean in your U?

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 03:50 AM
回复 28# danfred

no i knew them online

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 03:56 AM
回复 29# Jayrein

oh I see, so normally u all webcam and speak with each other in english?

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 04:00 AM
回复 30# danfred

no, we meet up and talk english with each other face to face

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 04:05 AM
回复 31# Jayrein

good then, have a nice platform to learn english.

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 04:07 AM
回复 32# danfred

yes~ u also can do that~ find some frens that speak english
by the way, my bf speak english... so~

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 04:15 AM
回复 33# Jayrein

ya, see ur photo im sure that he speak english to u.

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 04:17 AM
回复 34# danfred

hahaha~ dont look like chinese right?? he always urgue that he look like chinese~~

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 04:20 AM
回复 35# Jayrein

where got look like chinese...

He is indian right?

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 04:21 AM
回复 36# danfred

sri lankan~ erm can said he is indian also...

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 04:23 AM
回复 37# Jayrein

oh i see, so u dont like chinese guy?

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 04:25 AM
回复 38# danfred

i didnt say i dont like chinese guy but there is no chinese guy go for me

so none of my bfs is chinese

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 04:30 AM
回复 39# Jayrein

impossible

hmm, u look ok wat, or u don't have so much male friend?

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 04:34 AM
回复 40# danfred

i got quite a lot male frens... i think becoz im tan~ and mayb im too open minded for chinese
so they normally dont go for me
chinese guys prefer fair girls

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 04:39 AM
回复 41# Jayrein

How open minded are u? example...
through the conversation with u, i think quite ok lah...

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 04:49 AM
回复 42# danfred

erm~ i will hug n kiss my frens... and some other things
i dont think chinese can accept that~

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 04:57 AM
回复 43# Jayrein

so hot?

thats why they scare u...too hot...

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 05:00 AM
回复 44# danfred

i dont think thats hot... my frens did that~ and nth wrong with that too
u dont do that?? even my bf hug his frens

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-3 05:05 AM

回复 danfred

i dont think thats hot... my frens did that~ and nth wrong with that too
u ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 05:00 AM

male fren got lah, play play only...
if female, I think i will kena slap...

作者: SushiKangKang 时间: 2011-11-3 08:16 AM

回复 SushiKangKang

some frens?? special group?? or u rarely went out??
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 02:12 AM

yeah, some online friends. go out with time few times a month.

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 09:51 AM
回复 46# danfred

so big deal huh?? hahaha~ i hug guys n gals

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 09:52 AM
回复 47# SushiKangKang

wow~ online frens also~ same with me~~chinese frens??

作者: Y妹 时间: 2011-11-3 10:31 AM
1) Definitely.
2) Yup, it is "our" style and personally I think it make the sentences funny.
3) I think watching american/uk dramas or movie are able to build our listening skills, try to catch their meaning of words.
4) Yes as for politeness but I guess their don't understand what I'm talking.

please correct me if I use wrong voca/grammar.

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 10:38 AM
回复 50# Y妹

haha~ never look down on urself

believe me, not all foreigners good in english~ it always depends where they come from

so no worries~~ or u start talking to me 1st
then we can improve together

作者: Y妹 时间: 2011-11-3 10:46 AM
回复 51# Jayrein

alright, are you usually use English in your conversation? or even with your family/close friends?
I have no one to talk with me in English in my daily life, so I'm quick fluent using English speaking.

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 10:50 AM
回复 52# Y妹

no i dont talk english with my family, my parents dont really knw english well
but i talk english with some of my frens n my bf
but they said my english very bad
so i really need to improve

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2011-11-3 11:00 AM

i had discuss this question with my sis and her opinion is yes
1) do u guys think manglish is more ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 01:23 AM

1) do u guys think manglish is more approachable compare to proper english??
2) when having daily conversation, will u add some unnecessary words such as "la", "lo","meh", "wor" etc??
3) the way/ways used to improve english conversation??
4) if a foreigner is throwing a question to u, will u dare to answer him/her??

a) not really approachable
b) absolutely not
c) talk more
d) sure, why not?

作者: Y妹 时间: 2011-11-3 11:01 AM
回复 53# Jayrein

I think yours one quick well, at least you have apply in speaking with your friends & bf.
Maybe the different they said is the ways you pronounce (more towards manglish)?

If we pretend to speak western style English but actually we are not that far, what will western ppl think of us?
The most mistake I make in conversation is pronounce "he" as "she". hahaha~
I'm quick blur in pronounce letter "h", "th" and "el", what about you?

作者: HoldYouClose 时间: 2011-11-3 11:02 AM
Absolutely =)manglish is much more approachable
I agree though it might be disgusting to someone

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 11:06 AM
回复 55# Y妹

they will still thinking u talk manglish~~
yeah!! they keep laughing at my pronunciation... not bcoz of manglish but bcoz i dont really knw how to pronounce the words
of coz our chinese accent also is a problem

so sometime they dont knw wat i wan to express
i dont think i have problems pronouncing those words but i always mixed "he" and "she"

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 11:07 AM
回复 54# AvrilHiga

so u talk english daily? or u r mandarin base?

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 11:09 AM
回复 56# HoldYouClose

not disgusting but somehow some ppl will not understand~
its actually one of my frens question~ he is wondering y we love to add a lot of words at the end of sentences

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2011-11-3 11:15 AM

回复 Jayrein

I think yours one quick well, at least you have apply in speaking with your ...
Y妹发表于 2011-11-3 11:01 AM

I think yours one quick well, at least you have apply in speaking with your friends & bf.
Maybe the different they said is the ways you pronounce (more towards manglish)?
If we pretend to speak western style English but actually we are not that far, what will western ppl think of us?
The most mistake I make in conversation is pronounce "he" as "she". hahaha~
I'm quick blur in pronounce letter "h", "th" and "el", what about you?

i hope you don't mind, the highlighted words are part of the mistakes you made

a) yours one - yours
b)quick - quite
c)apply- applied
d)different- difference
e)pronounce- pronouncing

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2011-11-3 11:16 AM

回复 AvrilHiga

so u talk english daily? or u r mandarin base?
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 11:07 AM

used to speak everyday

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 11:18 AM
回复 61# AvrilHiga

used to?? so wats happen now?

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2011-11-3 11:22 AM

回复 AvrilHiga

used to?? so wats happen now?
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 11:18 AM

Now?
In process of learning Deutsch, and thus speak Deutsch at home

作者: Y妹 时间: 2011-11-3 11:23 AM
回复 60# AvrilHiga

thank so much, I'm looking for person to correct my english

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2011-11-3 11:25 AM

回复 AvrilHiga

thank so much, I'm looking for person to correct my english
Y妹发表于 2011-11-3 11:23 AM

you're welcome

作者: HoldYouClose 时间: 2011-11-3 11:25 AM

not disgusting but somehow some ppl will not understand~
its actually ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 11:09 AM

Yes , that is the difference between the manglish user and the proper english user
They find it hard to understand what you talk about what you're going to express
but they can still understand you literally as long as your expression is clear enough

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 11:26 AM
回复 63# AvrilHiga

so u r not chinese?? deutsch is german right??
i plan to learn french after my exams over~~~ but i wonder how much will the self learning book cost

作者: Y妹 时间: 2011-11-3 11:26 AM
回复 60# AvrilHiga

how bout the "most" you highlight? Is that I don't need to include in the sentences?

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 11:28 AM
回复 66# HoldYouClose

my frens think its really funny~ so they purposely add in the words
therefore its sound soo funny if they talk that way~ bcoz its dont linked like wat we used to talk

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2011-11-3 11:28 AM

回复 AvrilHiga

how bout the "most" you highlight? Is that I don't need to include in the senten ...
Y妹发表于 2011-11-3 11:26 AM

hey, sorry i overlooked

i think "most" should be replaced by "major"

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2011-11-3 11:32 AM

回复 AvrilHiga

so u r not chinese?? deutsch is german right??
i plan to learn french af ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 11:26 AM

O.o Sorry to disappoint you, maybe? I am chinese rofl
Well, for your information, French is not as easy as abc..
In my opinion,French is considered as one of the most difficult language in the world as to speak in French and to write in French is absolutely different

作者: HoldYouClose 时间: 2011-11-3 11:35 AM

my frens think its really funny~ so they purposely add in the words
th ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 11:28 AM

It is such a shame that they have been jeering at our manglish =(
eh speaking proper english is necessary

作者: Y妹 时间: 2011-11-3 11:37 AM
回复 71# AvrilHiga

It's ok, I shall be thankful

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2011-11-3 11:40 AM

回复 AvrilHiga

It's ok, I shall be thankful
Y妹发表于 2011-11-3 11:37 AM

be grateful for?

作者: Y妹 时间: 2011-11-3 11:44 AM
回复 74# AvrilHiga

like a teacher even my uni lecturer are not to correct our wrong grammar and vocabulary.
Sometime, I don't know when I should put "ed" or "es".

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2011-11-3 11:50 AM

回复 AvrilHiga

like a teacher even my uni lecturer are not to correct our wrong grammar and voc ...
Y妹发表于 2011-11-3 11:44 AM

Not to put blames on them, try to improve yourself

Work harder in improving your English is better than blaming them for not telling you the mistakes you made
They think you are capable to get rid of English, i bet .
They have a lot of portfolio and tasks to handle
Uni lecturers are not primary/secondary school teachers, remember that

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 11:53 AM
回复 71# AvrilHiga

aww~~ its really disappointing me

so wats the aims of learning german
i have frens that speak french, so i wanna to try to learn~
i hope its not as hard as hindi or tamil~

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 11:56 AM
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回复 72# HoldYouClose

anyhow my english is not as good as them~
they dont do that often coz they still dont use to manglish~
its fine~ i think its our own problems
bcoz most of them their major language is not english also, but they can speak better than us

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2011-11-3 11:58 AM

回复 AvrilHiga

aww~~ its really disappointing me so wats the aims of learning german
i ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 11:53 AM

obviously it will be harder

Learning Deutsch? Because i fancy the language

作者: Y妹 时间: 2011-11-3 12:03 PM
回复 76# AvrilHiga

Not to blame them, I know they are busy with their work and teaching.
Any suggestion would you like to give me for improve my English except read from newspapers and books?

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 12:04 PM
回复 79# AvrilHiga

i dont think so it will be harder than tamil or hindi
tamil is the world's most complicated language
and i got my frens to teach me, they are going to help me
and my other choices will be arabic or turkish which i can get frens to help

its much easier to learn that way right?

作者: Kikilala77 时间: 2011-11-3 02:07 PM
回复 1# Jayrein

1) do u guys think manglish is more approachable compare to proper english??
2) when having daily conversation, will u add some unnecessary words such as "la", "lo","meh", "wor" etc??
3) the way/ways used to improve english conversation??
4) if a foreigner is throwing a question to u, will u dare to answer him/her??

1) Definitely, Yes.It is..
2) Ya,it becomes a habit ==
3) Watch English drama and speak more
4) Foreigner? did you mean 'ah moh'? == Of course i will, even i cant speak fluently but at least i can show my courtesy.

作者: Jki 时间: 2011-11-3 03:05 PM
easier to communicate with malaysian & singaporean....will feel more gracious...
Will try to speak less Manglish when chat with foreigner...
I prefer British style English, however, their accent are very hard to listen and understand...

作者: ♂暄♀ 时间: 2011-11-3 03:54 PM
guess so cause sometimes when I'm using proper eng to communicate wif my bf he feels weird @@

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2011-11-3 04:32 PM

回复 AvrilHiga

Not to blame them, I know they are busy with their work and teaching.
Any sugge ...
Y妹发表于 2011-11-3 12:03 PM

Listening to English songs D:

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2011-11-3 04:34 PM

回复 AvrilHiga

i dont think so it will be harder than tamil or hindi
tamil is the world' ...
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 12:04 PM

actually it depends

for me, i think french is the hardest language

all the best in learning Tamil ;)

作者: txiaoqian 时间: 2011-11-3 05:09 PM
Actually an accent may identify the locality in which its speakers reside,so i think it's quite unnecessary for us to purposely change our accent to maybe America or British accent,
For me language is for communication, as long as one can speak and the other parties can understand than it's more than enough

Manglish is absolutely more approachable in our country as well as Singapore, I think Manglish is not so much of difference from Singlish

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 05:24 PM
回复 86# AvrilHiga

hahaha~ i dont learn tamil~~~ i wanna learn french~~

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 05:27 PM
回复 87# txiaoqian

its true~ accent indicate the origin of the person
but if u speak manglish to foreigners~ they will find it weird/funny
anyway, thanks for your opinion~

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 05:29 PM
回复 83# Jki

yep~ brithish accent very strong
bcoz they used to it already~ so when they talk to each other u very hard to get them

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 05:29 PM
回复 84# ♂暄♀

ur bf is chinese??

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 05:31 PM
回复 82# Kikilala77

so do u plan to stop talking manglish and start proper english??

作者: txiaoqian 时间: 2011-11-3 05:31 PM
回复 89# Jayrein

i think we will naturally cut off our lah leh lor when speaking to Angmoh..LOL
those foreigners who came from Vietnam or somewhere else have more "unique" accent which are pretty hard for us to understand

it's okay, u're welcome

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 05:35 PM
回复 93# txiaoqian

haha~ true~ every country has it unique accent, like korean, japanese etc
but if u already get use to the la li lo meh
u will find it hard to cut down
last time i did purposely cut down all the additional words, n i found it really hard
but now im already get use to better english ( yet still not the proper 1)

作者: txiaoqian 时间: 2011-11-3 05:45 PM
回复 94# Jayrein

i did agree that it's necessary to force ourselves to use proper English instead of Manglish
just that don't purposely to learn or pretending that we are the one who speaks with Angmoh accent
it's disgusting honestly

in my view Asian will never have 100% Angmoh accent unless we were borne in that particular country

作者: ♂暄♀ 时间: 2011-11-3 05:46 PM

回复 ♂暄♀

ur bf is chinese??
Jayrein 发表于 2011-11-3 05:29 PM

I also chinese what XD
he speaks manglish 1

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 05:48 PM
回复 95# txiaoqian

i think

i got weird accent........ maybe im oneof the disgusting people
how???

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 05:49 PM
回复 96# ♂暄♀

i see~ haha i thought ur bf is foreigner

作者: txiaoqian 时间: 2011-11-3 05:52 PM
回复 97# Jayrein

LOL..how weird is it?

but if it's ur natural accent it's okay ..I'm just found those who purposely pretending that they have Angmoh accent are disgusting..

作者: Jayrein 时间: 2011-11-3 05:55 PM
回复 99# txiaoqian

its like really weird~ there are some people thought im not from malaysia
im not like that 5 months back!! i think i knw where is my problem

but i dont think i can settle this problem instantly

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