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发表于 2009-10-23 10:06 PM |只看该作者
原帖由 nIgHtF3ver 于 2009-10-23 10:03 PM 发表
我说这位老兄啊...

网络世界本来就是一个不需要真实姓名的不是吗?

您何不妨公布您的姓名呢?在者...您可以道出是哪位仁兄在煽动吗?我想听听您的意见..


我是1991年毕业的张英杰。大爷您是?
补充一下。匿名不是不好,可是太多人以匿名之便,行中伤、诽谤之事。
另外,“仁兄”们太喜欢匿名了,所以抱歉,我不知道他们是谁。就像你,我也不晓得你是谁,对吗?

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原帖由 ycteo 于 2009-10-23 10:06 PM 发表


我是1991年毕业的张英杰。大爷您是?


张老兄您好..

我这里略微指出几项能用钱解决的课题.

这里是引用马来西亚著名 blogger Raja Petra Kamarudin 的一篇文章.

题名为.No Holds Barred

http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/27328/84/

Most Malaysians don’t think twice about the level of corruption in this country. Some even welcome it. How many times have you illegally parked your car or dashed through a red light and paid the policeman a bribe of RM50 or RM100 to save paying a RM300 fine if you are issued a summons?

And that is cheap, mind you. In the police lockup, we have to pay the policemen RM100 for a three-minute local phone call and RM10 for a stick of cigarette. So that comes to RM200 per packet. I paid RM200 for one night’s ‘protection’. For RM200 I was placed in a ‘special’ lockup where a detainee awaiting trial for murder took me under his wing so that the others could not get at me. He even threw in a cigarette as part of the ‘package’.

And it costs RM250,000 for a drug dealer to escape the gallows.

My wife, who in 2001 was detained overnight in the women’s section of the police lockup, the same night I was arrested, spoke to one Indonesian woman who was on her second drug dealing arrest. The first time she and her husband were arrested they had to pay RM500,000 for both of them to get released. They were trying to arrange another RM500,000 to get out of this second arrest. So that came to RM1 million for two arrests. Imagine how much they must be making dealing in drugs. More importantly, imagine how much the police are making each time they get arrested.

I spoke to many of my Chinese businessmen friends and they admitted that it is easier to do business when corruption is involved. This saves time since you can bypass the normal requirements and get your applications approved much faster by just bribing the government officers. Sometimes, when you are not ‘eligible’, you can become eligible by paying bribes. So bribes actually help when faced with certain obstacles -- and there are definitely many 'obstacles' when dealing with governments in third world countries like Malaysia.

When corruption does not affect you directly you are not too concerned about it. It is like crime. As long as the robbers do not break into your home to rob you and rape your wife or daughter then who bothers too much about the high level of crime? It is when it is you that is hit that you become outraged about the high crime rate and the low level of police enforcement and lack of effort to combat crime.

Is it not those who suffer or suffered from cancer, or have lost a loved one to cancer, who gets involved in anti-cancer movements or associations? How many of us who never had to face cancer would want to donate generously to the anti-cancer effort? We never bother about something that does not affect us. And the same goes for other things as well, such as corruption and whatnot.

But corruption does affect us, contrary to what many may be thinking. Sometimes it affects us directly. Most times, indirectly.

An average of ten people die each day on Malaysian roads. Many more are seriously injured or maimed, sometimes resulting in them no longer being able to work and earn a living. The main reason for this is that Malaysians do not know how to drive.

Now, let there not be any confusion over this statement. Malaysians may have a valid driving licence. But Malaysians do not know how to drive. Do you know that in some European countries you can exchange your Singapore driving licence for a driving licence of your host country? But they will not accept a Malaysian driving licence. Malaysian driving licences tak laku (have no value).

I know someone, now deceased, who had a driving licence but could not even reverse her car out of the driveway. How in heaven’s name did she pass her driving test and get a licence if she can’t even reverse her car? And for sure she can’t drive.

Well, she told me. The driving school has two schemes. One is the ‘guaranteed to pass your driving test’ scheme -- which means you will pass your driving test and get a driving licence even if you can’t drive. The other scheme involves you taking the driving test and passing it all on your own.

The trouble with this legitimate scheme, though, is that even if you know how to drive they will still fail you as ‘punishment’ for refusing to participate in the ‘guaranteed to pass’ scheme. So it is better to pay, even if you can drive, and especially if you can’t, to be assured off a driving licence.

So, about ten people a day die on Malaysian roads because most of them have a driving licence but do not know how to drive. And those who die could be you, a family member, an office colleague, or a close friend. In short, that person who died in the traffic accident could be someone you know or someone close to you.

Therefore, corruption does affect you when you lose someone because of corruption -- or if it is you who dies. If this person were forced to learn how to drive properly before being given a licence then maybe he or she would still be alive today. I have personally lost scores of friends and relatives due to traffic accidents over the last 50 years or so. Sometimes it is their fault. The sad part is when the accident is someone else’s fault and you are a victim of reckless or inconsiderate drivers who have absolutely no road sense whatsoever.

I have also lost people dear to me due to poor medical facilities. There are not enough hospital beds in the intensive care unit or not enough dialysis machines or whatever, which results in poor medical facilities. And these people had to die because of this.

It is not that Malaysia does not have enough money to improve its medical facilities. It is that Malaysia spends the money for the wrong reasons -- and spends too much on top of that because there are kickbacks and commissions involved in every project and procurement. So medical facilities take a back seat and many of us have lost friends, colleagues and relatives because they were denied prompt or proper medical treatment.

If the money had not been wasted and had instead been spent for the right purposes -- medical and education being the two most important -- then Malaysia would be a much better place. As it is, our medical and educational facilities are below the so-called first world infrastructure that we are so proud of.

We have the best weapons. We have fantastic bridges, buildings and roads. Heck, we even have submarines now. But we are extremely lacking when it comes to medical and educational facilities. And health and education are far more important than all those white elephants and monuments that swallow billions but bring no income to the country, as would most white elephants and monuments.

Cars cost a lot in Malaysia. That, again, is due to corruption. If the government allowed a free-for-all in the car industry then cars would cost much cheaper than they do now. But they can’t allow a free-for-all. They can’t because cronies of those who walk in the corridors of power are making a lot of money from the car import permits and whatnot. So Malaysians have to pay double what they should actually be paying for their cars. But their salaries are not double what they should be.

So you end up a slave of your car instead of the car being your slave. You work for your car when your car should instead be working for you. And because of the sorry state of public transport you have no choice but to own a car. You just can’t get around without a car like you can in so many other countries.

After paying for your car what do you have left at the end of the day? Most times, because of your car, you can’t afford a decent home. Malaysians are actually very poor. The cost of living is so high while the salaries are very low. And corruption keeps Malaysians poor.

So perish the thought if you thought corruption does not affect you. It does, in more ways than you realise. And only naïve people would believe that corruption does not personally affect them or is actually beneficial to business. Malaysians are paying a heavy price for corruption. And the worse thing is we do not even realise we are paying.

Malaysians pay billions in all forms of taxes. But a lot of this money does not come back to us. It gets flushed down the toilet. Billions are lost -- RM30 billion by some estimates. And this is our money. Imagine if we had to pay only RM0.30 for a litre of petrol or RM1.80 for a packet of cigarette or RM50,000 for a Honda Civic. Would you not have more money left in your pocket? Nowadays, your money is finished by the tenth day of the month and you have to wait another 20 days for your next paycheque.

Don’t even start talking about saving money for a rainy day. This is just not possible. Corruption has taken away all your money whereas considering how rich this country is we should not even be asked to pay taxes or, even if we are, it could be a very minimum level that hardly hurts us.

For decades, the opposition has been fighting for the government to set a fair minimum wage appropriate to the cost of living. But the government does not agree to the RM900 per month minimum wage proposal.

In fact, even RM900 is still too low. Countries like the UK have announced that the minimum wage will now be adjusted to about RM35 per hour. That is what some Malaysians earn in a day. Yet the price of cigarettes in the UK is almost the same as in Malaysia. And so goes for many other things as well -- while cars are half the price or less compared to Malaysia.


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发表于 2009-10-23 10:12 PM |只看该作者
No, Malaysians are poor. You earn so much less and have to pay so much more. Then corruption takes away what little you have left. And Malaysians still believe that corruption does not affect them directly.

And that is why I am of the opinion that PAS is not focused. They should be addressing the core issues. And the core issue here is corruption and how it affects us. Banning beer or sexy singers from appearing on stage does not offer Malaysians a better life. Even if beer and sexy singers are banned Malaysians will still remain poor. And we will remain poor because our money is being plundered and our low salaries and high taxes do not allow us a decent life.

Prophet Muhammad declared war on riba’ (usury). Riba’ basically means making money from no effort of your own. And, according to Sheikh Imran Hossein, there are 80 levels of riba’, corruption being one of them (since corruption involves making money in a dishonest manner and from no effort of your own).

But PAS does not declare war on corruption. PAS declares war on beer and sexy women. PAS does not understand that corruption and poverty is the real enemy. Poverty enslaves us. Corruption makes us even poorer.
PAS should take up the Prophet’s real fight, the fight against corruption and poverty. And poverty is the breeding ground of corruption. When you are broke one week after receiving your salary you need to resort to corruption to survive.

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发表于 2009-10-23 10:15 PM |只看该作者
wakao


我才三天没看


事情就演变到这样


我倒是觉得


整件事情根本就是阴谋论


我希望这次是我猜错


我才看完 MCA 告一段落


接下来却是 FY 要紧接上场?


难保过后会不会来 新纪元?


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发表于 2009-10-23 10:22 PM |只看该作者
为什么连宽中都要商业化??
我们只不过想好好读书而已...
为什么要那么麻烦

这件事一出来  以后麻烦的也是学生而已
以后筹款应该会抽到半死
毕竟 '三亿的ASSETS' 是大家都想不到的

我们要出席!!  
不可以私有化 到时候近百年的心血  全完了~~


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发表于 2009-10-23 10:26 PM |只看该作者
你是想凭 blogger Raja Petra Kamarudin的博文说明“哪些事是可以用钱解决的”来证明什么?证明这次的“典当宽柔”事件中是有人做了什么事吗?
是不是又要说你没这个意思我乱猜了?
声明一下,我英文不好,懒得消化你转贴的文章。
补充一下,我好像有更重要的事要做,再谈下去,我的朋友会笑我没有见识的。就这样了。


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回复 #104 恶魔撒旦666 的帖子

weijie....新纪元风波已经落幕很久~ =-=

此次宽柔事件。不知详情。。


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我认同董事会对于投资的前瞻性


但形式是 新加坡政府设立新加坡投资公司  模式

还有董事会对会员大会于特大负责为前提



我认同 会员问题的改革


但我还看不到相对完善的改革


只看到相对扭曲的文字游戏


我认同开特大的负责任做法


我不苟同这个特大会演变成做做样子的粉饰太平(我希望这不会再发生)





结论:  我希望看到更明确的改革来堵住有心人士要借漏洞的煽动行径


还有奉劝各位


这次的集会,还是不去为好


那个召集人本身也是有问题的




切勿受鼓动成为两方人马下斗脏斗臭下的炮灰还懵懂不知


虽然这次的改革也有它的缺陷


我不赞成消极抗议


倒是赞成连署请愿


前提是召集人不是这个人




送给当局者:完善改革落实改革用绩效证明你们的前瞻是对的



还是一再一再强调: 不要卷进来原本是私人恩怨的事端来伤害宽柔

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原帖由 ycteo 于 2009-10-23 10:26 PM 发表
你是想凭 blogger Raja Petra Kamarudin的博文说明“哪些事是可以用钱解决的”来证明什么?证明这次的“典当宽柔”事件中是有人做了什么事吗?
是不是又要说你没这个意思我乱猜了?
声明一下,我英文不好,懒 ...



张先生..我说是要我指出"哪些"事情能用钱解决.

我引用了著名部落客的文章来略微告诉你.

我只是就您提出的疑问来回答您.

我是就您提出的"哪些"事情能用钱解决来回答您.

而我.并没有证明这次的"典当宽柔"实践当中有人做了什么.

身为华人的我们所拥有的优势不外乎通晓三语.虽不能说精通.

但是简单明了的英文文章.我相信这是在您能力所及的范围之内能阅读并明白的.


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回复 #107 暗旋风影 的帖子

请原谅我不能说太多


我之所以迟迟到现在出声除了课业繁忙外


还有就是因为昨晚的国际电话才知道事情已经恶化到必须开声了


我不偏袒任何一方




我只相信落实绩效下出现的事实


我说的新纪元只是比喻 眼前华社内斗内行,外斗外行的恶性循环

[ 本帖最后由 恶魔撒旦666 于 2009-10-23 10:46 PM 编辑 ]


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